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	<title>Comments on: Iraqi TV Debate: Is the Earth Flat?</title>
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		<title>By: Mackenzie</title>
		<link>http://haha.nu/science/iraqi-tv-debate-is-the-earth-flat/comment-page-2/#comment-14196</link>
		<dc:creator>Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Koran doesn&#039;t describe the existence or prove the effectiveness of eyeglasses, yet he wears them.

It&#039;s like fundy Christians in Kansas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Koran doesn&#8217;t describe the existence or prove the effectiveness of eyeglasses, yet he wears them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like fundy Christians in Kansas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Machiavelli</title>
		<link>http://haha.nu/science/iraqi-tv-debate-is-the-earth-flat/comment-page-2/#comment-14151</link>
		<dc:creator>Machiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The knowledge of the roundness of earth is as old as the times of ancient Greek Philosophy, that means several hundred years older than any Arab invention. The fact that the zero and the numbers we use come from the muslim world means nothing. They don&#039;t seem to have used their knowledge for anything. At least I don&#039;t know any recent Muslim scientific or technical device that&#039;s used around the world (Falafel and Döner Kebab don&#039;t count). Where&#039;s the latest Arabic Nuclear Powerplant techology sold to the rest of the world? Where&#039;s Muslim Biotech, Astrophysics, any engineering invention from the last 200 years that&#039;s spread over the world?
I don&#039;t want to prove any inferiority but I want to show that the &quot;ancient Muslim wisdom&quot; argument doesn&#039;t prove anything either, because even the wise men of the days of old got many their scientific and religious/philosophical ideas from other cultures, like Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrism etc. Same with the Judaeo-Christian culture that didn&#039;t come from nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The knowledge of the roundness of earth is as old as the times of ancient Greek Philosophy, that means several hundred years older than any Arab invention. The fact that the zero and the numbers we use come from the muslim world means nothing. They don&#8217;t seem to have used their knowledge for anything. At least I don&#8217;t know any recent Muslim scientific or technical device that&#8217;s used around the world (Falafel and Döner Kebab don&#8217;t count). Where&#8217;s the latest Arabic Nuclear Powerplant techology sold to the rest of the world? Where&#8217;s Muslim Biotech, Astrophysics, any engineering invention from the last 200 years that&#8217;s spread over the world?<br />
I don&#8217;t want to prove any inferiority but I want to show that the &#8220;ancient Muslim wisdom&#8221; argument doesn&#8217;t prove anything either, because even the wise men of the days of old got many their scientific and religious/philosophical ideas from other cultures, like Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrism etc. Same with the Judaeo-Christian culture that didn&#8217;t come from nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ludwig</title>
		<link>http://haha.nu/science/iraqi-tv-debate-is-the-earth-flat/comment-page-2/#comment-14029</link>
		<dc:creator>Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has this video been created by the CIA to render muslims being idiots? Effectively, this will contribute to mutual hate and contempt - which is the base of international understanding in the new millenium. So, folks, continue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has this video been created by the CIA to render muslims being idiots? Effectively, this will contribute to mutual hate and contempt &#8211; which is the base of international understanding in the new millenium. So, folks, continue!</p>
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		<title>By: hmm...</title>
		<link>http://haha.nu/science/iraqi-tv-debate-is-the-earth-flat/comment-page-1/#comment-14004</link>
		<dc:creator>hmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;one has to accept that the existance of a god is possible.&quot;
one also has to accept that it is completley possible that god doesn&#039;t exist, and that jesus is his son (making him non-existant, or a bastard(conceived out of wedlock, maybe that&#039;s why mary claimed he was the son of god?)).
 
a lot of people try to convince me that god exists,by saying that there is no possible way that he couldn&#039;t because he is the origin of everything. therefore completely incomprehensible, and that&#039;s why god&#039;s nature is arbitrary. this is white noise, with me at the end going well all religion is false then, because they claim to understand his nature. when i claim god has the potential but if his nature is icomprehensible i don&#039;t have to concern myself with god.

if anyone read this your probably wasting your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;one has to accept that the existance of a god is possible.&#8221;<br />
one also has to accept that it is completley possible that god doesn&#8217;t exist, and that jesus is his son (making him non-existant, or a bastard(conceived out of wedlock, maybe that&#8217;s why mary claimed he was the son of god?)).</p>
<p>a lot of people try to convince me that god exists,by saying that there is no possible way that he couldn&#8217;t because he is the origin of everything. therefore completely incomprehensible, and that&#8217;s why god&#8217;s nature is arbitrary. this is white noise, with me at the end going well all religion is false then, because they claim to understand his nature. when i claim god has the potential but if his nature is icomprehensible i don&#8217;t have to concern myself with god.</p>
<p>if anyone read this your probably wasting your time.</p>
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		<title>By: hmm...</title>
		<link>http://haha.nu/science/iraqi-tv-debate-is-the-earth-flat/comment-page-1/#comment-14003</link>
		<dc:creator>hmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fools, you all think that the world is round?
Its not round, its not even a sphere,
its a 4 dimensional hypersphere.&quot;

being a 4 dimesional hypersphere implies that it is round, or that it has roundness... it has a round perimeter(also known as a circumerference (2 dimensions) that extends in a third dimension(depth which gives it  surface) and a fourth dimesnion (time, which gives it duration). which all seem perpendicular to each other, but are actually distorted by space-time curavture.

look and you will find
there is nothing to be found;
look, here is a cart
watch the wheels go round.

i can&#039;t speak for anyone else, but i am laughing at him because he is a fool, not because he thinks the earth is flat: his logic is completely arbitrary and flawed.  i would listen to him if he came up with some real evidence, not &quot;it says in the koran..&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fools, you all think that the world is round?<br />
Its not round, its not even a sphere,<br />
its a 4 dimensional hypersphere.&#8221;</p>
<p>being a 4 dimesional hypersphere implies that it is round, or that it has roundness&#8230; it has a round perimeter(also known as a circumerference (2 dimensions) that extends in a third dimension(depth which gives it  surface) and a fourth dimesnion (time, which gives it duration). which all seem perpendicular to each other, but are actually distorted by space-time curavture.</p>
<p>look and you will find<br />
there is nothing to be found;<br />
look, here is a cart<br />
watch the wheels go round.</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t speak for anyone else, but i am laughing at him because he is a fool, not because he thinks the earth is flat: his logic is completely arbitrary and flawed.  i would listen to him if he came up with some real evidence, not &#8220;it says in the koran..&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: hmm...</title>
		<link>http://haha.nu/science/iraqi-tv-debate-is-the-earth-flat/comment-page-1/#comment-14002</link>
		<dc:creator>hmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyhthing that has not indication in the koran is false.

he could just have easily said that he denies
the existance of kangaroos or george bush or himself, they have no indication in the koran.
he also denies his own senses saying that the sun moves every 24 hours; reality if it contradicts the koran doesn&#039;t exist - koran is reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyhthing that has not indication in the koran is false.</p>
<p>he could just have easily said that he denies<br />
the existance of kangaroos or george bush or himself, they have no indication in the koran.<br />
he also denies his own senses saying that the sun moves every 24 hours; reality if it contradicts the koran doesn&#8217;t exist &#8211; koran is reality.</p>
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		<title>By: unbreak</title>
		<link>http://haha.nu/science/iraqi-tv-debate-is-the-earth-flat/comment-page-1/#comment-13955</link>
		<dc:creator>unbreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fools, you all think that the world is round?
Its not round, its not even a sphere, 
its a 4 dimensional hypersphere.

I am laughing at all you guys just like you are laughing at him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fools, you all think that the world is round?<br />
Its not round, its not even a sphere,<br />
its a 4 dimensional hypersphere.</p>
<p>I am laughing at all you guys just like you are laughing at him.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://haha.nu/science/iraqi-tv-debate-is-the-earth-flat/comment-page-1/#comment-13954</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientology at its best?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology at its best?</p>
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		<title>By: Skweeeeeeeeeeeeeeee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skweeeeeeeeeeeeeeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe yeah, don&#039;t think that this is what most Muslims think.   

If it weren&#039;t for Islams the United States wouldn&#039;t exist.   It was Mohammad&#039;s (peace and blessing upon him) revolutionary ideas and encouragement of education that spawned a rennasance (sp)  in the middle east, where they developed algebra, the concept of zero, the very numbers we use today, yes, 1 2 3 4 5 5 7 8 9 and 0 are arabic numerals.   and they developed the trigonometry as someone stated above and the navigational equipment that without, Europe wouldn&#039;t have been able to navigate their ships and thus explore and colonise the rest of the world.


this guy&#039;s just a crackpot, like many creationists.  I know evolution&#039;s real, but I have a hard time understanding how a fish knows how to start the process to evolve sophisticated lungs over the course of a million years.   so while creation as it is in genesis of the bible is definately rediculous, wether or not there is a god is up for debate for me though.  and scientifically as there is no evidence to support there not being a god, one has to accept that the existance of a god is possible.

so don&#039;t trash religious people either ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe yeah, don&#8217;t think that this is what most Muslims think.   </p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t for Islams the United States wouldn&#8217;t exist.   It was Mohammad&#8217;s (peace and blessing upon him) revolutionary ideas and encouragement of education that spawned a rennasance (sp)  in the middle east, where they developed algebra, the concept of zero, the very numbers we use today, yes, 1 2 3 4 5 5 7 8 9 and 0 are arabic numerals.   and they developed the trigonometry as someone stated above and the navigational equipment that without, Europe wouldn&#8217;t have been able to navigate their ships and thus explore and colonise the rest of the world.</p>
<p>this guy&#8217;s just a crackpot, like many creationists.  I know evolution&#8217;s real, but I have a hard time understanding how a fish knows how to start the process to evolve sophisticated lungs over the course of a million years.   so while creation as it is in genesis of the bible is definately rediculous, wether or not there is a god is up for debate for me though.  and scientifically as there is no evidence to support there not being a god, one has to accept that the existance of a god is possible.</p>
<p>so don&#8217;t trash religious people either <img src='http://haha.nu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last caption sums it up nicely: 
&quot;Anything with no confirmation in the Koran is false&quot;. That pretty much explains all this BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last caption sums it up nicely:<br />
&#8220;Anything with no confirmation in the Koran is false&#8221;. That pretty much explains all this BS.</p>
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